From pushing mowers and dodging debt to building a 7-figure hardscape brand, Chris and Rich Vazzana, aka The Patio Bros, did what most won’t.
Today we kick off the first-ever guest interview on Captain’s Quarters First Class, and I couldn’t think of a better person to launch this with than my friend and fellow lighting savage Shane “Glow Daddy” Duffy.
Shane’s not just another entrepreneur.
Captain Matt is coming in hot with one simple truth: the words you use shape your client's perception and your paycheck.
If you're still saying "pots" instead of "urns," "pergola" instead of "pool cabana," or calling it "landscape lighting" instead of an "illumination portrait"... you're leaving money—and authority—on the table.
Captain Matt sold lights at $240 a fixture...and still walked away with over $1,000 in profit on a single job. This episode isn't about bragging—it's about breaking the industry's worst habit: pricing by fixture and comparing your rates like you're swinging for ego points.
Still sending line-item quotes in Jobber or Joist? You’re losing deals you should be closing—because you’re not building value.
In this episode of Captain’s Quarters First Class, Captain Matt breaks down his evolved proposal process that closes more jobs, faster, often without stepping foot on the property.
Most lighting guys are addicted to the chase—new leads, new clients, new installs. But what if the real money is sitting untouched in your own CRM?
In this episode of Captain’s Quarters First Class, Captain Matt breaks down one of the most overlooked strategies in any outdoor lighting business: re-engaging the people who told you "no."
Learn how he uses the “No for Now” mindset to pull in five- and six-figures from clients who once ghosted him…and why your ignored leads list might be your most valuable asset.
If you're calling your crew ‘1099’ but treating them like employees… you're playing with fire.
In this episode, Captain Matt tackles one of the most misunderstood (and most dangerous) topics in the lighting industry: the difference between true 1099 subcontractors and W-2 employees.

Captain Matt is back with a raw, unfiltered look at what it really takes to start, and restart, in this business. This episode dives deep into what it looked like when he launched The Christmas Guys in 2009 with nothing but printer paper, mailbox flags, and relentless grit. No ad budget. No training programs. Just hustle.

Every legacy has a beginning.
This is mine.
Long before The Lighting Trade School.
Before the podcast.
Before the coaching.
Before the mentoring.
Before the installs that made millionaires and billionaires say “damn.”
There was a broke dad in upstate New York hanging lights to buy his kid Christmas presents.

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